Comments on: Martin Norén goes to Disneyland http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/ The interaction of the press and politics; public diplomacy, and daily absurdities. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: WatchTower http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-3873 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:48:01 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-3873 Amazing, that TheTroll has “such good” knowledge about person that you obviously never have meet. Take a good look in the mirror and you will se the real douche bag. To my knowledge the father in law treated MN as a “soon in the house” until he and the daughter found out about his real two-faced narcissistic personality. There is only one person double-dealing here, and thats MN and his beloved Mother. There is no one missing MN, not even his children. The father in law and all the family on the daughter’s side is helping out to give the children a stable upbringing, compensating for all the mess that MN created. When you “The Troll” write about things that only have the “cry baby story” you sure are cementing your own stupidity. Get your facts straight before you comment things!! Amazing, that TheTroll has “such good” knowledge about person that you obviously never have meet. Take a good look in the mirror and you will se the real douche bag.
To my knowledge the father in law treated MN as a “soon in the house” until he and the daughter found out about his real two-faced narcissistic personality. There is only one person double-dealing here, and thats MN and his beloved Mother. There is no one missing MN, not even his children.
The father in law and all the family on the daughter’s side is helping out to give the children a stable upbringing, compensating for all the mess that MN created.
When you “The Troll” write about things that only have the “cry baby story” you sure are cementing your own stupidity. Get your facts straight before you comment things!!

]]> by: TheTroll http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-3506 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:16:18 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-3506 As a comment to Watchtower: I personally know Martin, we went to school together for several years. Whatever you have written about Martin is false, and you obviously have not spent much time with him. instead it seems that you have spent more time with his psychotic father-in-law. The father in law was scentenced by Swedish court for his actions towards Martin and I personally feel that he should have been sent to prison instead of having to pay a quite large amount of money. The mother of Martin's children is making life extremely miserable for both Martin and their children. Her father's actions here is proof that the term "white trash" is justified when describing their behaviour. As for Martin, he is now "persona non grata" in the US, he lost his job and had to deal with all the consequences for these utterly stupid people´s actions. If nothing else then this shows who really are the "douchebags" in this whole mess created by the father in law and his daughter. Quit crying like a baby Watchtower, you are just cementing the stupidity of the father in law and his daughter. As a comment to Watchtower:

I personally know Martin, we went to school together for several years. Whatever you have written about Martin is false, and you obviously have not spent much time with him. instead it seems that you have spent more time with his psychotic father-in-law.

The father in law was scentenced by Swedish court for his actions towards Martin and I personally feel that he should have been sent to prison instead of having to pay a quite large amount of money.

The mother of Martin’s children is making life extremely miserable for both Martin and their children. Her father’s actions here is proof that the term “white trash” is justified when describing their behaviour.

As for Martin, he is now “persona non grata” in the US, he lost his job and had to deal with all the consequences for these utterly stupid people´s actions. If nothing else then this shows who really are the “douchebags” in this whole mess created by the father in law and his daughter.

Quit crying like a baby Watchtower, you are just cementing the stupidity of the father in law and his daughter.

]]> by: Nils Contois http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2401 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:42:13 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2401 Deja Fu: The feeling that somehow, somewhere, you've been kicked in the head like this before. Deja Fu: The feeling that somehow, somewhere, you’ve been kicked in the head like this before.

]]> by: Jeff http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2094 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:42:42 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2094 Hoping to put an end to this nonsense - the issue in the MacKenzie\'s original blog was the FBI\'s use of anonymous snitches to place someone on a terrorist watch list. This is not unlike the tactics of intelligence (sic) organizations like the E. German Stasi. Unchecked, it opens the door to all kinds of abuse to civil liberties as well as opportunities for personal attacks. The comment that \"where there is smoke there must be fire\" is ample evidence of the nuttiness of the approach. WatchTower\'s comments sound an awful lot like someone with a personal connection to Mr. Noren\'s situation and a personal ax to grind. The issue for this blog is the tactics of the FBI not Mr. Noren\'s personal life. Hoping to put an end to this nonsense - the issue in the MacKenzie\’s original blog was the FBI\’s use of anonymous snitches to place someone on a terrorist watch list. This is not unlike the tactics of intelligence (sic) organizations like the E. German Stasi. Unchecked, it opens the door to all kinds of abuse to civil liberties as well as opportunities for personal attacks.

The comment that \”where there is smoke there must be fire\” is ample evidence of the nuttiness of the approach. WatchTower\’s comments sound an awful lot like someone with a personal connection to Mr. Noren\’s situation and a personal ax to grind. The issue for this blog is the tactics of the FBI not Mr. Noren\’s personal life.

]]> by: WatchTower http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2087 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:26:42 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2087 What the “Father in law actually said was, “I didn’t think that they would seize him without evidence. After all the USA is the world’s biggest democracy and there legal system should work”. He also said that “The normal act on an anonymous tip is to investigate, find evidence and then take actions” If FBI takes that kind of action they must have found some indication to act on. The old saying “where there is smoke there is a fire” must be the trigger. The Swedish paper Aftonbladet is not telling a correct story, in fact it’s a one sided story and the “cry baby” is crying out the well rehearsed story over and over. In fact the story during the trial was spiced up with “I heard people being tortured with electric guns” and “I lost my job because Filemaker cancelled the technical support contract with Trigono because of the allegations”. Trigono is still the Swedish distributor, but the technical support is handled by Sykes. That switch was made by the simple reason that MN was not able to deliver satisfaction to the Filemaker customers. The prosecution of “the father in law” was refused by the normal prosecutor and all of a sudden it became a matter for the Swedish secret police SÄPO and then handled by a prosecutor named Agnetha Hilding Qvarnström a special prosecutor normally only handling only secret cases, read about that woman on Wikipedia. Take a good think about here result on the Muslim hunt. This type of handling is unheard of in Sweden and the case is unique and will probably go to the entire levels of courts in Sweden. The violation of Swedish fundamental and basic laws about people’s rights to opinions and freedom of speech is apparent. The “father in law” is still taking care of the financial mess that MN left behind when leaving the daughter with 3 small children today 10, 5 and 2 years old. The departure was not of a good hearted will to leave without damaging the old relation. In fact MN did everything the wrong way leaving. Stay tuned on upcoming events like MN and his mother are pressing charges against the “father in laws” daughter claiming the mother was ill-treated by the daughter. Aftonbladet has upcoming charges for slander and violating court rules. Should be interesting to read about. AHQ has to answer on upcoming investigation from Parliamentary Ombudsmen - JO in Sweden. The Ombudsmen of Justice (JO) or the Parliamentary Ombudsmen to give them their official title are elected by the Swedish Riksdag (Parliament) to ensure that public authorities and their staff comply with the laws and other statutes governing their actions. The Ombudsmen exercise this supervision by evaluating and investigating complaints from the general public, by making inspections of the various authorities and by conducting other forms of inquiry that they initiate themselves. If you want to put a face to the word “douchebag” put in the man that said this to the mother of a new born, the very first night of a new born. “You can stay here alone, my mother is all alone by here self I must go and keep here company” Guess Who! What the “Father in law actually said was, “I didn’t think that they would seize him without evidence. After all the USA is the world’s biggest democracy and there legal system should work”.
He also said that “The normal act on an anonymous tip is to investigate, find evidence and then take actions”
If FBI takes that kind of action they must have found some indication to act on. The old saying “where there is smoke there is a fire” must be the trigger.
The Swedish paper Aftonbladet is not telling a correct story, in fact it’s a one sided story and the “cry baby” is crying out the well rehearsed story over and over. In fact the story during the trial was spiced up with “I heard people being tortured with electric guns” and “I lost my job because Filemaker cancelled the technical support contract with Trigono because of the allegations”. Trigono is still the Swedish distributor, but the technical support is handled by Sykes. That switch was made by the simple reason that MN was not able to deliver satisfaction to the Filemaker customers.

The prosecution of “the father in law” was refused by the normal prosecutor and all of a sudden it became a matter for the Swedish secret police SÄPO and then handled by a prosecutor named Agnetha Hilding Qvarnström a special prosecutor normally only handling only secret cases, read about that woman on Wikipedia. Take a good think about here result on the Muslim hunt.
This type of handling is unheard of in Sweden and the case is unique and will probably go to the entire levels of courts in Sweden. The violation of Swedish fundamental and basic laws about people’s rights to opinions and freedom of speech is apparent.

The “father in law” is still taking care of the financial mess that MN left behind when leaving the daughter with 3 small children today 10, 5 and 2 years old. The departure was not of a good hearted will to leave without damaging the old relation. In fact MN did everything the wrong way leaving.

Stay tuned on upcoming events like
MN and his mother are pressing charges against the “father in laws” daughter claiming the mother was ill-treated by the daughter.

Aftonbladet has upcoming charges for slander and violating court rules. Should be interesting to read about.

AHQ has to answer on upcoming investigation from Parliamentary Ombudsmen - JO in Sweden. The Ombudsmen of Justice (JO) or the Parliamentary Ombudsmen to give them their official title are elected by the Swedish Riksdag (Parliament) to ensure that public authorities and their staff comply with the laws and other statutes governing their actions. The Ombudsmen exercise this supervision by evaluating and investigating complaints from the general public, by making inspections of the various authorities and by conducting other forms of inquiry that they initiate themselves.

If you want to put a face to the word “douchebag” put in the man that said this to the mother of a new born, the very first night of a new born. “You can stay here alone, my mother is all alone by here self I must go and keep here company” Guess Who!

]]> by: Mackenzie Brothers http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2085 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:18:16 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2085 According to the Swedish paper Aftonbladet, Martin Norén's father-in-law was put on trial on Thursday January 17 in Lund, after having admitted that he had denounced Norén to the FBI in August 2006 as someone with contacts to al-Qaida, although there was no reason, other than personal animosity, to do so. Martin Norén, 40, was then seized as a terrorist when he landed in the USA. Norén's father-in-law told the court: " I didn't think that they would seize him. After all the USA is the world's biggest democracy." The prosecution is a demanding a jail sentence because of grave slander. According to the Swedish paper Aftonbladet, Martin Norén’s father-in-law was put on trial on Thursday January 17 in Lund, after having admitted that he had denounced Norén to the FBI in August 2006 as someone with contacts to al-Qaida, although there was no reason, other than personal animosity, to do so. Martin Norén, 40, was then seized as a terrorist when he landed in the USA. Norén’s father-in-law told the court: ” I didn’t think that they would seize him. After all the USA is the world’s biggest democracy.” The prosecution is a demanding a jail sentence because of grave slander.

]]> by: Jeff http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2081 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:44:20 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2081 Naturally it would be helpful to have some sources cited for WatchTower's comments. Naturally it would be helpful to have some sources cited for WatchTower’s comments.

]]> by: WatchTower http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2080 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:39:18 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2080 His reasons for his hatred of the US - He sure is talking shit about US in Nordic press and in German press. The story is fiction and he likes "crying like a baby". The man sounds more like a “border liner person” and he is bursting to give his EGO satisfaction. The amazing thing is that FBI has revealed an anonymous tip and the person behind the tip. There are a lot of indications that gave the result of a tip about “most likely” a connected to AQ. The man (MN) had several secret bank accounts, several secret email addresses. He was obsessed with playing war games as opponent to US marines. He participated in making a “terrorist” instruction film about shooting down a civilian air-plane with a rocket missile. He was more eager to go to the US than taking care of his children when the mother to the children was sick. That’s the behaviour of a “terrorist”. The “father-in law” is taking care of the grandchildren and is giving them a home (the home that MN left). His reasons for his hatred of the US - He sure is talking shit about US in Nordic press and in German press.
The story is fiction and he likes “crying like a baby”.
The man sounds more like a “border liner person” and he is bursting to give his EGO satisfaction.

The amazing thing is that FBI has revealed an anonymous tip and the person behind the tip.
There are a lot of indications that gave the result of a tip about “most likely” a connected to AQ.

The man (MN) had several secret bank accounts, several secret email addresses. He was obsessed with playing war games as opponent to US marines. He participated in making a “terrorist” instruction film about shooting down a civilian air-plane with a rocket missile.
He was more eager to go to the US than taking care of his children when the mother to the children was sick. That’s the behaviour of a “terrorist”.

The “father-in law” is taking care of the grandchildren and is giving them a home (the home that MN left).

]]> by: Jeff http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2078 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:04:07 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2078 How do you say "welcome to America" in Swedish? välkommen till Amerika! besättning om! How do you say “welcome to America” in Swedish?

välkommen till Amerika! besättning om!

]]> by: alex http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2052 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:58:59 +0000 http://politicsandpress.com/2008/martin-noren-goes-to-disneyland/#comment-2052 Disneyland? I heard he was working for Filemaker and on his way to some IT conference.. Disneyland? I heard he was working for Filemaker and on his way to some IT conference..

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